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I think I figured it out.

At 5.1 (prior?) The Plex installed included a couple of additional folders in the Samples/Model APIs

model api c++ test application
model api vb test application

I found one PC in use that still had 5.1 installed.

Charles

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Jeremy,

Thanks for the reply.

But no, I don't think that was it.

Charles

Charles,

Are you thinking of Plex Model API which was provided by Soft Design and I think held at the Pattern Factory?

Regards,
Jeremy Hutchinson
Desynit Limited
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Hi Matthew,

thanks for the reply. Using IBM Client Access API seems to be good solution. I generated and built the sample model and it worked fine.

Best regards,

Teemu

Thanks you, Axel
Your experience match ours friends case...I also have thought on java, but It seems that Niels have found a good solution. Maybe you have interest on it...
Kindly
Jorge

Thanks you Niels, for you valuable experience. Indeed it will be very useful for our colleagues. I agree with you that there are great reasons to upgrade to Plex 6.0/6.1. I hope they finally will follow that way, but it´s a very good news to know they can take as many time as they would need to upgrade...
Thanks again
Jorge

Hi Jorge,

My current setup is Windows 7 64bit UK - Professional Edition and this is what you need to do in order to install and get CA Plex versions 6.0 and prior version to work successfully.

You will need to enable Windows XP Mode (not available if you are running Windows 7 home edition).
Information on downloading and installing Windows XP mode can be found at the Microsoft site.

You will not get VS 6.0 to run under Windows 7 - only through Windows XP Mode. The same goes for parts of VS 2003.

So what I have running now on my system is:

CA Plex v4.0, v5.0, v5.1, v5.5 and v6.0 in Windows XP Mode and CA Plex v6.1 in pure Windows 7.

If running CA Plex v6.0 and only using RPG/ILE RPG and/or Java you can run CA Plex v6.0 under Windows 7 (but no WinC support).

You can of course also replace Windows XP Mode with an instance of VMWare Player where you install Windows XP as the guest operating system, but then you will need a Windows XP license (with Windows XP Mode you get the license for "Free")

Windows XP Mode integrates with the Windows 7 desktop enabling you to start your CA Plex v5.0 like any other application from the Windows 7 start menu.

I have found that running Windows XP mode requires additional memory I have 8gb (4gb is recommended)

Hope this helps! And by the way I would recommend upgrading to Plex v6.1.

-Niels P.

Dear Jorge,
we didn't try to install VS6 on Win7 because we heard of some incompatibilities and won't get in trouble with this.
We switched to Java generator a while ago and do some testing with PleXML, the XML/XSL Framework for getting out-of-the-box (nearly) web-clients from allabout software GmbH, Hamburg, Germany.

As soon as I hear from somebody testing VS6 with Win7, having success, I will post it for you.

I hope you are pretty well and healthy, having fun with Plex.
Regards,
Axel

Dear all
An old colleague ask me if it is possible to install Plex 5.0 on Windows 7. His first try was positive, but he found incompatibilities with Visual Studio 6.0. Then, fine tunning the question, someone have tested VS 6.0 on Windows 7?

P.s. Do you mean FLDCSRPRG, as opposed to FLDCSRRPG as you said?

Regards,

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Thanks Simon,

I checked the timeout settings. The session timeout is set to 30 minutes. I will see if we can get this increased.

Hi,

You say "I hope CA 2E will generate SQL source code correctly for SQL select/omit if we use r6.1".

When you say r6.1 I assume you are talking about OS V6R1, right?

Please can you tell me what release of 2E you are using and what O/S you are using?

I'd also like to see a, simple, example of:

A ) What SQL source code is generated in your scenario now.
B ) What SQL source code you would expect to see generated at V6R1.

Cheers,

Simon Cockayne
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Hi there Mark,

This might be related to Problem C22E 408: https://support.ca.com/irj/portal/anonymous/kbproblem?docid=509734&productcd=C22E&problemnbr=408&fromKBResultsScreen=T

A fix is being worked on for that problem.

I will alert the engineer to this thread so they can consider your scenario during fix testing development.

Regards,

Simon Cockayne
CA Technologies
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I am using 2E version 8.5 level 1351.

When I generate an edit record in which I manually specify a tab order (F10 from Edit Screen Format Details), the last field on the DDS gets generated with FLDCSRRPG( ). This is incorrect. It should either not be there, or a field should be named. Is there a fix for this? I can get around it by clearing out all the tab sequence values. In this case the FLDCSRRPG keyword is not generated.

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Hi Chris,

Not "vanishing posts". Rather, vanishing post *attempts*.

See https://communities.ca.com/web/ca-plex-ca-2e-global-user-community/message-board/-/message_boards/message/7396772#_19_message_8165371

I think the problem is that someone starts to draft a post and invests a lot of time and brain cycles in it...goes to post it and the post attempt fails and the draft is lost...which is a real drag. Forcing the user to start over.

Cheers,

Simon

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Hi Simon,

This is the first I am hearing of vanishing posts. I will look into this ASAP! Do you have an example?

Hi,

I raised an issue to have someone investigate and address the problem of post attempts vanishing.

Cheers,

Simon

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I know your pain...I've gotten into the habit on this board among others to copy & paste my long detail replies into a text editor prior to hitting post just in case.



I'd agree with all the above from what I've read...at least in theory. But i have to wonder if you were seeing those benefits, why have you not continued using them?

Charles

I just spent a long, but interrupted session providing a detailed reply, only to have it get eaten on pressing enter.

In summary


Statistics provide the basis for identifying functions to work on.
The stats provide details of the test requirement
functions can be fingered for simplification, the before and after stats showing the reduction in test cases needed, and pointing towards simpler, cheaper, maintenance.
2e model analysis provides a measure of design quality (I was acting as 'consultant' remember) and show the degree to which the database reflected good design, uneccessary functions exist (costing maintenance time) etc



All said though, I haven't used this in my present job, and when I tried using the model settings analysis / comparison tool a while back it just laughed, so I guess the code is out of date for 2e files at least.


Maybe I should dust it off and give it a polish. Wonder where it went?

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Thanks guys your insight has been helpful. I am looking at options to extend an Insurance application (built using COBOL/Java source code - and way too many developers!) to the iPhone and other portable devices.

Regards,

Darryl

Richard,

So the question is, if you developed these tools in the last century, are you still using them?

If so, what have you seen as far as value in the 10+ years you've been using them?

Charles

Forget the EXCUSRSRC option - try using the "*Set Cursor" built-in function int he process of the subfile records as follows:

.-CASE
|-RCD.*SFLSEL is Display
| <Do something for display option>
| *Set cursor: RCD.*SFLSEL (*Override=*YES)
'-

Have not tested this - but seem to recall that it repositions the subfile to the correct page after processing - which includes rebuilding the necessary number of pages if you paged down a few pages.

Regards,

Darryl

A simplistic approach I've used is to store the key values (positioner keys) of the subfile record, then inject them to the positioner fields when the file is reloaded - the screen positions with the record at the top of the display.

It's not a complete solution, but its all in 2e, and cheep to implement with code ready provided in the *template function.

A simplistic approach I've used is to store the key values (positioner keys) of the subfile record, then inject them to the positioner fields when the file is reloaded - the screen positions with the record at the top of the display.

It's not a complete solution, but its all in 2e, and cheep to implement with code ready provided in the *template function.

Coming late to this discussion...

I developed some tools back in the last century which seem to mirror Darryl's philosophy. Analyse RPG code and divine the number of paths, number of file accesses blah blah. Access the model and divine the 'source code' at the model level. Arrive at numbers. Produce stuff to explain to managers what they had, and why function 'x' needs more testing than 'y' and (after some work) how much simpler function 'a' had become.

The mantra now is 'reduced risk' of failures in service. If you can reduce and reduce to simpler components, then risk is reduced, and there should be a value to that, sufficient to buy (or sell) the tools to do so.


Richard Wilson

Without having seen your other 2 excusrsrc's (I can't see another post with part 2) I think your problem might be that when the user selects some records, the subfile is re-loaded, and the excusrsrc is setting the subfile page to a page that doesn't exist in the subfile anymore, because it has been reloaded with only the first page of records.

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Hi,
(sorry for few mistakes, I'm French !)

I've the same problem in CA/2E 8.1SP1 on V5R1 AS/400, in a RPG-generated progam, in an EDTFIL also. But no EXCUSRSRC is used here.
If I page twice forward, once backward and type a value in a selector, program quits with error, the same message "incorrect record number etc.."

An idea ?

Thanks
Fred

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You can manage the connection yourself from within Plex using the IBM Client Access API.

There are some limitations, for example you need to be able to contact the iSeries on the Client Access TCP/IP port, which will be different from the Plex listener port and can be troublesome if you are going through a firewall. If that's not an issue then this is a good way to take full control of the login by writing is as a Plex function, without the system and "save" check boxes, add a company logo etc. The Plex samples folder "\ISeries Manage Password" includes a sample model and documentation.

I've used this for a number of clients where we needed to make the login process look more polished. Before this I used to change the C++ resource dll in the way George describes.

Hello Darryl,

Developing the iPhone application for the 2009 conference gave us the opportunity to try out the Plex WCF services with both an iPhone app written in Objective C and a HTML browser client written in Java/JSP. At the time there was limited SOAP support in the iPhone SDK so the messages were coded by hand, but it worked and was about 30 hrs of development for that client app. The Java JSP client for use in desktop and mobile browsers was a little easier because of good tool support to import the WSDL. It was a successful pet project in partnership with our friends at Mubaloo, we were able to agree the service contracts and build the client and server modules with the minimum of fuss.

If you want to build a "proper" iPhone app you will need to seek out iPhone skills, the same is true for Android and Java Mobile. Also remember that whatever the iPhone application does has to meet with Apples' approval and that there is also a time delay between submitting the app to the Apple Appstore and it being approved, several days or more. They may also reject the application and, whenever you have a new version or minor fixes, you will need to resubmit for approval. A web browser based solution is an alternative, there's a much broader range of skills and you retain control of the publishing process. Brower applications will be less useful if there is poor on no network coverage, whereas an iPhone app could work offline, make use of local storage, data caching and the other gizmos on the device (GPS, camera motion sensors etc.).

Our conclusion was that by using the Plex web services, and also now 2E web services, we can work with other platforms and development teams using SOAP as a common language. We are using the same principle now in a project to intergrate a 2E application with a Cloud Computing platfrom.

Hope this gives you a bit more information. You know where I am if you want to know more.

All the best mate,

Matt

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